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Unread 2010-12-09, 15:46   #1
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"New data (pdf) from the FCC suggests that most consumers aren't getting speeds that technically adhere to the agency's new definition of broadband, which was recently changed to 4 Mbps downstream and 1 Mbps upstream. According to the study, more than two-thirds (68%) of the 90,963,000 U.S. broadband connections tracked were too slow down or upstream (or both) to technically qualify as high-speed service -- not even meeting 3Mbps/768 kbps. 58% of connections measured (76,594,000 connections) were slower than 3 Mbps downstream. 49% of connections (65,942,000 connections) featured upstream speeds slower than 768kbps.

Some of those users may be on slow connections by choice. Some of those users may be on slow connections because the lack of any significant competition means companies aren't pressured to upgrade their networks. The FCC study doesn't specify because the FCC study doesn't take a real look at competition.

As we've complained about for years, the FCC has traditionally made broadband policy decisions based on flawed and incomplete data. Part of the 1996 Telecom Act required that the agency release quarterly reports on the status of broadband deployment. Unfortunately for consumers, that data has always been slightly better than useless -- with the FCC declaring any zip code that has just one served broadband customer in it to be "wired" for service. This flawed methodology has dictated FCC policy for years." (More)
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Unread 2010-12-09, 15:56   #2
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My connection is 3/768 theoretically, reality is it does not happen even on a good day.
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Unread 2010-12-09, 16:02   #3
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I'm sorry. My service is 3Mbps and I'd certainly consider it broadband. I can stream Netflix. I can get documents, songs, and install packages down quickly and I can upload my pictures just fine. Who the hell decided 4Mbps should be the cutoff? Shit, if they set the new broadband definition at 3.000001 Mbps they'd probably get the exact same results.

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Unread 2010-12-09, 16:04   #4
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I've never seen anywhere near 1mb up. ATT blows. Eeek from fark works for comcrap here in town, he is getting 60down forgot what up was and can't find the pic of it. Anyway, my internet sucks. 6mb down, Now on a good day I can get 700 down from a good server like when allofmp3 was up. Most days uploading to my server is like dial up.
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Unread 2010-12-09, 16:11   #5
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I think the base package for Fios is 15/5 now. Plenty fast for me.
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Unread 2010-12-09, 16:13   #6
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I'm sorry. My service is 3Mbps and I'd certainly consider it broadband. I can stream Netflix. I can get documents, songs, and install packages down quickly and I can upload my pictures just fine. Who the hell decided 4Mbps should be the cutoff? Shit, if they set the new broadband definition at 3.000001 Mbps they'd probably get the exact same results.

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That is all well and good, but I think the point here is really that many other industrialized countries are WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY ahead of the US on this front.
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Unread 2010-12-09, 16:14   #7
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I think we don't like seeing ourselves on infographics like:

http://arstechnica.com/telecom/news/...enetration.ars

But look how large we are compared to all the tiny countries with superfast bandwidth. I'm sure it's a challenge for the people who control our crappy infrastructures. Why bother attacking the challenge when there's little competition?

Kind of like our rail system vs Japan's... and exactly like our broadband vs Japan's. They have blazing fast speeds at prices lower than ours.
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Unread 2010-12-09, 16:26   #8
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Unread 2010-12-09, 16:53   #9
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I just got an upgrade from 15 down to 30 down. Up is still at 512k. :-/

FIOS had great upstream bandwidth. I miss it so much.
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Unread 2010-12-09, 16:56   #10
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Just ran the same test 1.81 Mpps download .65 upload. Which is perfectly acceptable to them if you call, always we don't guarantee any certain speed.
Just glad the same people don't make cars, this model's top speed is 120 mph. But mine won't go over 50, well we don't guarantee that 120, is is just a suggested speed.
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Unread 2010-12-09, 18:45   #11
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Mine is throttled right at 3 Mbps. If I run that test I'll get 2.99 down and 1 up every time.
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Unread 2010-12-10, 12:41   #12
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Worth a look to know where we stand http://speedtest.net/global.php#0
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Unread 2010-12-10, 19:02   #13
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I just ran the tests, chucks, dsl reports, and att. One of these things is not like the other. U suck ATT! Look at that ping to a server 20 miles from here!
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I have Comcast -- and as much as I hate this company, I have to say that I've really never had any problems with their internet service here. Plenty fast for anything I need it for at home.
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Unread 2010-12-11, 9:18   #15
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Unread 2010-12-11, 9:42   #16
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I blame the shitty firewall.
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Unread 2010-12-11, 10:03   #17
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Repo, how the hell do you have a better connection to rochester? Can't you see the comcast headquarters from your house?
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Unread 2010-12-11, 10:35   #18
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I'm at 11.14 download, but only 0.49 upload. My service (Rogers) was flaky for a bit, but has been very good lately.
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Unread 2010-12-12, 6:58   #19
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I'm sorry. My service is 3Mbps and I'd certainly consider it broadband. I can stream Netflix. I can get documents, songs, and install packages down quickly and I can upload my pictures just fine. Who the hell decided 4Mbps should be the cutoff? Shit, if they set the new broadband definition at 3.000001 Mbps they'd probably get the exact same results.

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Finally getting around to responding to this. Sure you can stream a movie but can you place a VoIP calls while doing so, can the kids play on xbox live while the movie is streaming? 3 Mbps is pretty bottom end and as we move more and more services onto the internet 3 Mbps is just not going to cut it.
They said 4 Mbps but to do all that we need I am thinking more like 10 should be a realistic number, not everyone would want or need it but it should be available.
Not to mention a lot of areas might be able to pursue rural sourcing if better connectivity were available.
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Unread 2010-12-12, 11:37   #20
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The streams also adjust for bandwidth. We can do HQ on both xboxes, unless they throttle us back. It's very noticeable in quality when they do. The PS3 is a bandwidth hog, when it's downloading our line goes to shit. My 6mb line should be adequate for the 3 of us using different apps at the same time, but it isn't. There is no doubt that att is dicking with the service. When bellsouth had the service there were no problems, other than the occasional maintenance outage. The connection dies on the hour or half hour routinely, it's maddening.

This thread is depressing.
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